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Dr. Jordan Peterson & Dr. Andrew Huberman, fournis par [vid_author_name]. La description se trouve ci-dessous :« Le Dr Jordan Peterson et le Dr Andrew Huberman discutent de l’impact de la pornographie sur le cerveau, de la relation avec d’autres compulsions basées sur la dopamine et des défis qu’elle peut poser aux relations sexuelles naturelles. Le Dr Jordan Peterson, Ph.D., est psychologue, professeur émérite à l’Université de Toronto, auteur le plus vendu et éminent éducateur en ligne. Le Dr Andrew Huberman est professeur titulaire de neurobiologie et d’ophtalmologie à la Stanford University School of Medicine et hôte du podcast Huberman Lab. Regardez l’épisode complet: https://youtu.be/k0hkhbgyagq?si=cbkmb9_ytezjkylt Remarques: https://go.hubermanLab.com/3qkwtpf * Suivez Huberman Lab * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanLab: https://www.. Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab x: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/ @hubermanLab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Site Web: https://www.hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://go.hubermanlab.com/newsletter * Timestamps * 00:00 lien Aux circuits cérébraux primitifs 00:49 reconnaissant la compulsion 02:00 Comment la consommation compulsive se développe 02:57 Stimulus supernormal et Stickleback Fish 04:39 Analogue des aliments hautement transformés 05:54 Voyages multiples à la satiation 08:58 Satiation de la soif 10:00 Circuits sont détournés 10:50 Le seuil de nouveauté augmente 11:40 Mode le plus satisfaisant 13:05 Difficulté à établir des relations sexuelles #hubermanlab #jordanpeterson divullacimer & divullosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer (Tagstotranslate) Huberman Lab Podcast (T) Huberman Lab ».

La plateforme YouTube permet une grande variété de contenus vidéo qui touchent des sujets allant de l’humour à des intérêts personnels divers. Elle met un point d’honneur à fournir un espace sûr et respectueux où chacun peut découvrir de nouveaux points de vue tout en suivant les directives communautaires.

Créer une version de soi-même libérée de la dépendance à la pornographie

Adopter des comportements sains et responsables au quotidien

Se consacrer à des pratiques apaisantes, telles que la méditation ou le yoga, aide à réguler les émotions et à contrôler les envies excessives

Cultiver des amitiés sincères améliore la stabilité émotionnelle

Créer des relations profondes et réelles aide à remplacer les désirs virtuels par une sexualité épanouie et partagée

Adopter une approche éthique de la sexualité

Intégrer une approche éthique dans la sexualité favorise une meilleure compréhension de soi et de ses partenaires Se détacher de la pornographie exige une prise de conscience profonde, des moyens adaptés et du soutien. En comprenant les mécanismes de cette dépendance et en agissant de manière structurée, il est possible de retrouver un équilibre de vie et de cultiver une sexualité épanouie. Rechercher des solutions adaptées est essentiel pour sortir du cycle de dépendance (à ce sujet voir ce leader pour la chasteté masculine).

Structurer une approche efficace pour gérer le processus de sevrage

Créer des stratégies pour contrôler les impulsions

L’un des aspects importants de la gestion des comportements indésirables est la reconnaissance des déclencheurs. La TCC, les activités constructives et le soutien de proches sont des outils essentiels.

Définir des buts précis et atteignables

Pour réussir à se libérer de cette dépendance, il est nécessaire de fixer des objectifs clairs, tels que réduire le temps passé à consommer du porno. Une réflexion sur les raisons profondes et les bénéfices à long terme est essentielle pour maintenir l’engagement.

Mettre en place un espace qui favorise la régénération

Les extensions de navigateur et les applications de contrôle parental peuvent être des outils précieux pour limiter l’accès aux contenus pornographiques. En complément, se tourner vers des activités qui stimulent la créativité et la productivité peut également aider à réduire les envies compulsives.

Explorer les causes de la dépendance au porno

Investiguer les dynamiques internes et leurs impacts

Les mécanismes cérébraux de récompense, activés par la pornographie, libèrent de la dopamine, encourageant des schémas addictifs et alimentant un cercle vicieux de mal-être émotionnel.

Comprendre comment la consommation de porno modifie le quotidien

L’addiction affecte les relations personnelles, réduit l’estime de soi et freine les interactions émotionnelles authentiques. Une consommation abusive de porno peut renforcer une dépendance émotionnelle axée sur ces supports

Repérer les symptômes de dépendance

Une consommation excessive et compulsive de pornographie, typique de l’addiction, peut provoquer des conflits relationnels, un isolement et des problèmes au travail.

Se tourner vers les diverses formes d’assistance disponibles

Se servir des applications et outils en ligne pour le suivi de son progrès

Les outils numériques et applications dédiés offrent la possibilité de suivre les progrès, d’envoyer des rappels motivants et d’établir des routines positives pour éviter les contenus pornographiques.

S’adresser à un spécialiste des soins psychologiques

Se tourner vers un thérapeute expert en dépendances comportementales, comme un psychologue utilisant la TCC, permet de repérer les causes sous-jacentes et de bénéficier d’un accompagnement sur mesure.

Faire partie d’un groupe de soutien

Les groupes de soutien sont des espaces sécurisés où l’on peut partager son vécu, apprendre des stratégies éprouvées et se soutenir mutuellement dans le processus de guérison.

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Retranscription des paroles de la vidéo: nowadays I get a lot of questions um about pornography and the the discussion around pornography is always related to the discussion around masturbation um but let’s just talk about pornography for a moment in this context of these primitive drives and these circuits within the hypothalamus which we were all born with that um clearly some of them are devoted to our progression as a species through reprodu zero question about that sexual behavior being linked to reproduction not always but certainly we can all agree on that necessary precondition I hope we can still all agree on that but um last time I checked that’s still true a sper and an egg met someplace in some context to create all of us okay we’re still grounded in that pornography is something that I hear quite a lot from typically young males but sometimes young females or even older females who say that they can see themselves trying to resist the desire to go look at it and it almost doesn’t feel like a desire anymore they’re sort of just in a um kind of a a compulsion that is that is almost unconscious but they’re just aware of the fact that eting disorder like an eating disorder they’re doing it they know they shouldn’t be doing it and they can’t help themselves and we could think about two ways to attack this if one believes it’s a real concern and they certainly do so I do um I don’t I would be if I if I had or do I pornography has not been my thing and and I don’t struggle with it but but when I hear from these people it’s so clear that they’re asking is it the prevalence of pornography out there or is it something really broken in them like are they broken but I don’t know that I would say after having the discussion we’ve had thus far that they’re broken it seems to me that it’s like the as you said it’s the manifestation of one part of their it’s one personality within them well it’s being it’s being compulsively rewarded so you know when when a when you see yourself moving towards the culmination of a desired goal a dopamine that’s accompanied by dopamine release okay and so two things you know this but everybody who’s listening might not there’s two elements to that dopamine release one is pleasure but the other is that the dopamine imagine that there are circuits activated as you’re acting what the dopamine does is increase the probability that the circuits were that were activated just before the positive experience happened grow okay so now if you’re engaged with pornography and that culminates in sex in in successful sexual satiation which it can that’s what masturbation does then the whole personality that’s oriented toward that set of stimuli is going to come to dominate it’s very much like an addiction except it’s it’s you know there there has been there’s been work done with generally simpler animals on these phenomena called super stimuli I think it’s stickleback fish where this was first observed so males I hope I get this right but I’ve got it approximately right I believe it’s male sticklebacks will they’re very aggressive towards other male sticklebacks and the reason they’re aggressive is because the other male sticklebacks have a red dot on their bellies so they don’t like red dots at all and so you can really enrage a stickleback with a red dot and if you use a red dot that’s a little bigger and a little brighter than the typical Red Dot you get a super stimulus it’s virtually irresistible to the stickle back and it’s weird because the maximal activation is produced by a stimulus that they wouldn’t see in nature it slightly exceeds that’s exactly what pornography does it’s a super stimulus right and it’s not surprising that young males in particular are susceptible to that because male sexuality in human beings is very visually oriented very and a lot of our brain is visual way more than virtually every other animal certainly every other primate and ver and every other mammal and so we have a situation where any 13-year-old boy can see more hyper attractive super stimulus women in one day than the most successful man who ever lived a 100 years ago would have ever seen in his whole life yeah well that’s a like an evolutionary ecological radical ecological transformation and the and it’s worse because it’s easily accessible so it takes no work right so not only is it a super stimulus it’s one that’s at hand so to speak and the and the uh the analog in the food world would be highly palatable highly processed food yeah sugar fat combination you go into the other day I went into a gas station to use the restroom because I was traveling home for Thanksgiving and and I looked around I and I I thought this isn’t a convenience store this is a pharmacy right everything that had chocolate also also seemed to have caffeine and color everything every drink seemed to combine not just sugar but also caffeine and some other things that would provide s stimulants then you’ve got nicotin and and these things on their own aren’t necessarily bad any one of these one elements in low low enough doses in frequent use Etc but maybe sugar being the one that that clearly I think uh deserves um deeper investigation right um but it just Ur to me much different than difference between manufacturing sugar and Manufacturing cocaine I mean you take something that’s available in its natural form in relatively low concentrations and purify it I mean cocoa leaves the natives used cocoa leaves forever as mild stimulant didn’t seem to cause them any trouble but that’s way different than cocaine right and sugar has the same arguably the same pathological properties well I didn’t think we were going to go here but I think it’s extremely appropriate and important that we do so I I know that you followed what is essentially an Elimination Diet for a number of years you eat meat right I eat meat vegetables fruit and um some starches unrefined starches in any event one thing that I think is absolutely clear from following a clean diet so to speak of any kind but let’s say of the sort that you follow or I follow is that you very soon learn the relationship between Taste of the food volume of the food macronutrient so protein fat or carbohydrate content micronutrients and satiation which is if you think about it sort of like a big plate of broccoli or a big steak or something the brain learns and the hypothalamus learns the association between the taste the caloric content what else is in there and satiation if you think about highly processed food or even combinations of multiple ingredients that’s absolutely impossible to do the brain can’t parse what are the various things in here and how do they relate to my feelings of satisfaction it’s the difference between a super drug and what I believe are the the elements that were that expl explain why you think that’s that link learned link about satiation can’t be learned in the case of these processed foods yeah because in the context of these processed foods they’re activating multiple neuron systems in the hypothalamus and gut we know that the gut has neurons that can respond to Sugar fatty acids and amino acid content and there’s a you know this prominent theory that you know one of the main reasons we is to forage for amino amino acids that we’ll eat until we get enough of the essential amino acids and we correlate that with taste but that the gut has neurons where we know the gut has neurons that signal through the Vegas up through a little relay called the noo gangling if you want to look at it fun um fun name and then up to the dopaminergic centers of the brain which make us oh when we eat something that has a high uh essential amino acid content like a steak like a really tasty steak the neurons in the gut in a way that is independent of taste are signaling to the brain ah I’m getting essential amino acids you should eat more of this thing if those let’s just say a small fraction of those amino acids that are present in a candy bar in a you know a package of of Skittles which I’m I’m guessing there’s very few of them if any you’re going to continue to forage for food because those neurons will also respond to Sugar basically it will keep you eating until you get enough of those amino acids in other words there are two parallel tracks one within our tast system Pathways to satiation that totally right multiple Pathways to satiation one depending on taste one depending on actual nutrient content the mouth can only learn taste Association the mouth can’t actually learn nutrient content the gut knows nutrient content the problem is you take a food that is low in a micronutrient or macronutrient or essential amino acids are essential fatty acids after all there are no essential carbohydrates they’re only essential amino acids and essential fatty acids right right right and it will keep you eating and it will keep the appetite system revving until you get enough of those now here’s the issue if you’ve ever done this it’s that’s empty calories empty calories but what’s so so in some ways um you know this again is an analog log to the whole discussion around pornography masturbation and and reproduction right I’m not saying that reproduction is the be all end all of sexual activity but in the evolutionary sense it absolutely is right there’s no question about that there’s no moral judgment there that’s just the reality so the the the the situation with food is is the following if we are eating without any gut level understanding of about what’s coming in we will keep eating if you let me give you an example you probably haven’t done this experiment in while but if you’ve ever just had you know ribeye steak or two it’s pretty satiating maybe you also have a salad if you’re me or some broccoli or something like that if one takes then even after you’ve eaten all that one bite of pasta one bite of pasta the the next impulse is more yes right even though you already have enough essential amino acids from those Saks you’re loosing you know uh threshold youve reach that Etc all that that good stuff why because blood glucose goes up and then you desire more because blood glucose elevations are linked directly to the dopamine org system so what I’m basically trying to say here is that I do think that there are elements to our food modern food if you will it seems like it’s you know anything but modern in the sense that it’s worse for us than the more primitive foods but highly processed foods pornography any drug that spikes dopamine dramatically like methampetamine for instance any behavior that spikes dopamine dramatically that very quickly hijacks these circuits and to me the way to to teach those circuits a a calmer more um prudent version of themselves right to enter a different hypothalamic uh activation pattern is to start breaking the things down into their Essential Elements right about the motivation the pleasure Etc to Tamp all that down I mean we know that for pornography if the pornography is very extreme then less extreme pornography doesn’t seem to work well that’s because there’s also a novelty kick in dopaminergic striving right I mean so with any B basic competitive pleasure there’s a dopaminergic kick but with any novelty there’s also a dopaminergic kick so there’s an optimized threshold for novelty and repetitive striving that plays out in pornography so um there’s the direct effect of the stimulus as such but the there’s variation in the stimulus that’s also novel and so you it’s a common pattern for pornographic usage to become more what would you say fetishistic that’s one way of thinking about it as it progresses because that that keeps the novelty alive that’s very dangerous that’s a very dangerous development right and I would venture in a very different domain that if you were to eat your steak slathered in barbecue sauce for a couple of weeks going back to the way that you eat them now which by the way this is a great opportunity to educate people about something that you taught me when we had dinner last which is that if you’re going to order a steak order a Pittsburgh Char the Char on the outside is incredibly tasty they’re we love that um the Umami taste is that wish you have a devoted taste receptor to that it’s complex yeah so and if they don’t know what a Pittsburgh Char is then maybe you’re in the wrong restaurant or you need to educate them but incredibly satiating delicious right but if you were to slather those steaks in in a bunch of things I would suspect that after a while your plain steaks wouldn’t taste as good but certainly but the way to make them taste good again would be to eat them plain for a period of time in which the stuff the all the condiments Etc would start to become aversive I do believe that when we return to the the sort of most um naturally satisfying mode of engaging with these uh with these circuits here we’re talking about food and sex in parallel that they become especially satiating and I think that you know in hearing from all these people that are addicted to pornography and they’re not addicted like they telling me they love it and they can’t stop they’re telling me it’s no longer working for them that the that there’s this you know diminishment in the amount of dopamine that they’re getting over time and they feel trapped within it and they have no sense whatsoever because they haven’t been socialized you to go out and find a real relationship a real sexual relationship or a relationship of any well it also it’s also there is some evidence suggesting too that if you’ve been socialized into pornography sexuality it’s actually quite difficult to establish a sexual relationship with an actual partner now I would say to some degree that’s always been difficult because it’s a complex form of behavior but the introduction of pornography well it sets up a whole landscape of expectation for example that’s not necessarily going to play out that well in the real world let’s say and there’s also a learning of those biological systems in the brain to um evoke arousal by observing sex as opposed to participating complet completely different so some of these um right that’s voer right you’re basically learning to be a Voyer right right and so you think about young brains that are highly plastic yeah learning that so the returning yeah we have no idea what to make of that because especially for young men because when they hit puberty sexuality becomes a very uh insistent force and we have no idea what effect pornography has on the development of male sexuality none [Music] .

Déroulement de la vidéo:

4.16 nowadays I get a lot of questions um
4.16 about
4.16 pornography and the the discussion
4.16 around pornography is always related to
4.16 the discussion around
4.16 masturbation um but let&;s just talk
4.16 about pornography for a moment in this
4.16 context of these primitive drives and
4.16 these circuits within the hypothalamus
4.16 which we were all born with that um
4.16 clearly some of them are devoted to our
4.16 progression as a species through reprodu
4.16 zero question about that sexual behavior
4.16 being linked to reproduction not always
4.16 but certainly we can all agree on that
4.16 necessary precondition I hope we can
4.16 still all agree on that but um last time
4.16 I checked that&;s still true a sper and
4.16 an egg met someplace in some context to
4.16 create all of us okay we&;re still
4.16 grounded in
4.16 that pornography is something that I
4.16 hear quite a lot from typically young
4.16 males but sometimes young females or
4.16 even older females who say that they can
4.16 see themselves trying to resist the
4.16 desire to go look at it and it almost
4.16 doesn&;t feel like a desire anymore
4.16 they&;re sort of just in a um kind of a a
4.16 compulsion that is that is almost
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4.16 eating disorder they&;re doing it they
4.16 know they shouldn&;t be doing it and they
4.16 can&;t help themselves and we could think
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4.16 certainly do so I do um I don&;t I would
4.16 be if I if I had or do I pornography has
4.16 not been my thing and and I don&;t
4.16 struggle with it but but when I hear
4.16 from these people it&;s so clear that
4.16 they&;re asking is it the prevalence of
4.16 pornography out there or is it something
4.16 really broken in them like are they
4.16 broken but I don&;t know that I would say
4.16 after having the discussion we&;ve had
4.16 thus far that they&;re broken it seems to
4.16 me that it&;s like the as you said it&;s
4.16 the manifestation of one part of
4.16 their it&;s one personality within them
4.16 well it&;s being it&;s being compulsively
4.16 rewarded so you know when when a when
4.16 you see yourself moving towards the
4.16 culmination of a desired goal a dopamine
4.16 that&;s accompanied by dopamine release
4.16 okay and so two things you know this but
4.16 everybody who&;s listening might not
4.16 there&;s two elements to that dopamine
4.16 release one is pleasure but the other is
4.16 that the dopamine imagine that there are
4.16 circuits activated as you&;re acting what
4.16 the dopamine does is increase the
4.16 probability that the circuits were that
4.16 were activated just before the positive
4.16 experience happened grow okay so now if
4.16 you&;re engaged with pornography and that
4.16 culminates in sex in in successful
4.16 sexual satiation which it can that&;s
4.16 what masturbation does then the whole
4.16 personality that&;s oriented toward that
4.16 set of stimuli is going to come to
4.16 dominate it&;s very much like an
4.16 addiction except it&;s
4.16 it&;s you know there there has been
4.16 there&;s been work done with generally
4.16 simpler animals on these phenomena
4.16 called super stimuli I think it&;s
4.16 stickleback fish where this was first
4.16 observed so males I hope I get this
4.16 right but I&;ve got it approximately
4.16 right I believe it&;s male
4.16 sticklebacks will they&;re very
4.16 aggressive towards other male
4.16 sticklebacks and the reason they&;re
4.16 aggressive is because the other male
4.16 sticklebacks have a red dot on their
4.16 bellies so they don&;t like red dots at
4.16 all and so you can really enrage a
4.16 stickleback with a red dot and if you
4.16 use a red dot that&;s a little bigger and
4.16 a little brighter than the typical Red
4.16 Dot you get a super stimulus it&;s
4.16 virtually irresistible to the stickle
4.16 back and it&;s weird because the maximal
4.16 activation is produced by a stimulus
4.16 that they wouldn&;t see in nature it
4.16 slightly exceeds that&;s exactly what
4.16 pornography does it&;s a super stimulus
4.16 right and it&;s not surprising that young
4.16 males in particular are susceptible to
4.16 that because male sexuality in human
4.16 beings is very visually oriented very
4.16 and a lot of our brain is visual way
4.16 more than virtually every other animal
4.16 certainly every other primate and ver
4.16 and every other mammal and so we have a
4.16 situation where any 13-year-old boy can
4.16 see more hyper attractive super stimulus
4.16 women in one day than the most
4.16 successful man who ever lived a 100
4.16 years ago would have ever seen in his
4.16 whole life yeah well that&;s a like an
4.16 evolutionary ecological radical
4.16 ecological transformation and the and
4.16 it&;s worse because it&;s easily
4.16 accessible so it takes no work right so
4.16 not only is it a super stimulus it&;s one
4.16 that&;s at hand so to speak and the and
4.16 the uh the analog in the food world
4.16 would be highly palatable highly
4.16 processed food yeah sugar fat
4.16 combination you go into the other day I
4.16 went into a gas station to use the
4.16 restroom because I was traveling home
4.16 for Thanksgiving and and I looked around
4.16 I and I I thought this isn&;t a
4.16 convenience store this is a pharmacy
4.16 right everything that had chocolate also
4.16 also seemed to have caffeine and color
4.16 everything every drink seemed to combine
4.16 not just sugar but also caffeine and
4.16 some other things that would provide s
4.16 stimulants then you&;ve got nicotin and
4.16 and these things on their own aren&;t
4.16 necessarily bad any one of these one
4.16 elements in low low enough doses in
4.16 frequent use Etc but maybe sugar being
4.16 the one that that clearly I think uh
4.16 deserves um deeper investigation right
4.16 um but it just Ur to me much different
4.16 than difference between manufacturing
4.16 sugar and Manufacturing cocaine I mean
4.16 you take something that&;s available in
4.16 its natural form in relatively low
4.16 concentrations and purify it I mean
4.16 cocoa leaves the natives used cocoa
4.16 leaves forever as mild stimulant didn&;t
4.16 seem to cause them any trouble but
4.16 that&;s way different than cocaine right
4.16 and sugar has the same arguably the same
4.16 pathological properties well I didn&;t
4.16 think we were going to go here but I
4.16 think it&;s extremely appropriate and
4.16 important that we do so I I know that
4.16 you followed what is essentially an
4.16 Elimination Diet for a number of years
4.16 you eat meat right I eat meat vegetables
4.16 fruit and um some starches unrefined
4.16 starches in any event one thing that I
4.16 think is absolutely clear from following
4.16 a clean diet so to speak of any kind but
4.16 let&;s say of the sort that you follow or
4.16 I
4.16 follow is that you very soon learn the
4.16 relationship between Taste of the food
4.16 volume of the food macronutrient so
4.16 protein fat or carbohydrate content
4.16 micronutrients and satiation
4.16 which is if you think about it sort of
4.16 like a big plate of broccoli or a big
4.16 steak or something the brain learns and
4.16 the hypothalamus learns the association
4.16 between the taste the caloric content
4.16 what else is in there and satiation if
4.16 you think about highly processed food or
4.16 even combinations of multiple
4.16 ingredients that&;s absolutely impossible
4.16 to do the brain can&;t parse what are the
4.16 various things in here and how do they
4.16 relate to my feelings of satisfaction
4.16 it&;s the difference between a super drug
4.16 and what I believe are the the elements
4.16 that were that expl explain why you
4.16 think that&;s that link learned link
4.16 about satiation can&;t be learned in the
4.16 case of these processed foods yeah
4.16 because in the context of these
4.16 processed foods they&;re activating
4.16 multiple neuron systems in the
4.16 hypothalamus and gut we know that the
4.16 gut has neurons that can respond to
4.16 Sugar fatty acids and amino acid content
4.16 and there&;s a you know this prominent
4.16 theory that you know one of the main
4.16 reasons we is to forage for amino amino
4.16 acids that we&;ll eat until we get enough
4.16 of the essential amino acids and we
4.16 correlate that with taste but that the
4.16 gut has neurons where we know the gut
4.16 has neurons that signal through the
4.16 Vegas up through a little relay called
4.16 the noo gangling if you want to look at
4.16 it fun um fun name and then up to the
4.16 dopaminergic centers of the brain which
4.16 make us oh when we eat something that
4.16 has a high uh essential amino acid
4.16 content like a steak like a really tasty
4.16 steak the neurons in the gut in a way
4.16 that is independent of taste are
4.16 signaling to the brain ah I&;m getting
4.16 essential amino acids you should eat
4.16 more of this thing if those let&;s just
4.16 say a small fraction of those amino
4.16 acids that are present in a candy bar in
4.16 a you know a package of of Skittles
4.16 which I&;m I&;m guessing there&;s very few
4.16 of them if any you&;re going to continue
4.16 to forage for food because those neurons
4.16 will also respond to Sugar basically it
4.16 will keep you eating until you get
4.16 enough of those amino acids in other
4.16 words there are two parallel tracks one
4.16 within our tast system Pathways to
4.16 satiation that totally right multiple
4.16 Pathways to satiation one depending on
4.16 taste one depending on actual nutrient
4.16 content the mouth can only learn taste
4.16 Association the mouth can&;t actually
4.16 learn nutrient content the gut knows
4.16 nutrient content the problem is you take
4.16 a food that is low in a micronutrient or
4.16 macronutrient or essential amino acids
4.16 are essential fatty acids after all
4.16 there are no essential carbohydrates
4.16 they&;re only essential amino acids and
4.16 essential fatty acids right right right
4.16 and it will keep you eating and it will
4.16 keep the appetite system revving until
4.16 you get enough of those now here&;s the
4.16 issue if you&;ve ever done this it&;s
4.16 that&;s empty calories empty calories but
4.16 what&;s so so in some ways um you know
4.16 this again is an analog log to the whole
4.16 discussion around pornography
4.16 masturbation and and reproduction right
4.16 I&;m not saying that reproduction is the
4.16 be all end all of sexual activity but in
4.16 the evolutionary sense it absolutely is
4.16 right there&;s no question about that
4.16 there&;s no moral judgment there that&;s
4.16 just the reality so the the the the
4.16 situation with food is is the following
4.16 if we are eating without any gut level
4.16 understanding of about what&;s coming in
4.16 we will keep eating if you let me give
4.16 you an example you probably haven&;t done
4.16 this experiment in while but if you&;ve
4.16 ever just had you know ribeye steak or
4.16 two it&;s pretty satiating maybe you also
4.16 have a salad if you&;re me or some
4.16 broccoli or something like that if one
4.16 takes then even after you&;ve eaten all
4.16 that one bite of pasta one bite of pasta
4.16 the the next impulse is more yes right
4.16 even though you already have enough
4.16 essential amino acids from those Saks
4.16 you&;re loosing you know uh threshold
4.16 youve reach that Etc all that that good
4.16 stuff why because blood glucose goes up
4.16 and then you desire more because blood
4.16 glucose elevations are linked directly
4.16 to the dopamine org system so what I&;m
4.16 basically trying to say here is that I
4.16 do think that there are elements to our
4.16 food modern food if you will it seems
4.16 like it&;s you know anything but modern
4.16 in the sense that it&;s worse for us than
4.16 the more primitive foods but highly
4.16 processed foods pornography any drug
4.16 that spikes dopamine dramatically like
4.16 methampetamine for instance any behavior
4.16 that spikes dopamine dramatically that
4.16 very quickly hijacks these circuits and
4.16 to me the way to to teach those circuits
4.16 a a calmer more um prudent version of
4.16 themselves right to enter a different
4.16 hypothalamic uh activation pattern is to
4.16 start breaking the things down into
4.16 their Essential Elements right about the
4.16 motivation the pleasure Etc to Tamp all
4.16 that down I mean we know that for
4.16 pornography if the pornography is very
4.16 extreme then less extreme pornography
4.16 doesn&;t seem to work well that&;s because
4.16 there&;s also a novelty kick in
4.16 dopaminergic striving right I mean so
4.16 with
4.16 any B basic competitive pleasure there&;s
4.16 a dopaminergic kick but with any novelty
4.16 there&;s also a dopaminergic kick so
4.16 there&;s an optimized threshold for
4.16 novelty and repetitive striving that
4.16 plays out in pornography so
4.16 um there&;s the direct effect of the
4.16 stimulus as such but the there&;s
4.16 variation in the stimulus that&;s also
4.16 novel and so you it&;s a common pattern
4.16 for pornographic usage to become more
4.16 what would you say fetishistic that&;s
4.16 one way of thinking about it as it
4.16 progresses because that that keeps the
4.16 novelty alive that&;s very dangerous
4.16 that&;s a very dangerous development
4.16 right and I would venture in a very
4.16 different domain that if you were to eat
4.16 your steak slathered in barbecue sauce
4.16 for a couple of weeks going back to the
4.16 way that you eat them now which by the
4.16 way this is a great opportunity to
4.16 educate people about something that you
4.16 taught me when we had dinner last which
4.16 is that if you&;re going to order a steak
4.16 order a Pittsburgh Char the Char on the
4.16 outside is incredibly tasty they&;re we
4.16 love that um the Umami taste is that
4.16 wish you have a devoted taste receptor
4.16 to that it&;s complex yeah so and if they
4.16 don&;t know what a Pittsburgh Char is
4.16 then maybe you&;re in the wrong
4.16 restaurant or you need to educate them
4.16 but incredibly satiating delicious right
4.16 but if you were to slather those steaks
4.16 in in a bunch of things I would suspect
4.16 that after a while your plain steaks
4.16 wouldn&;t taste as good but certainly but
4.16 the way to make them taste good again
4.16 would be to eat them plain for a period
4.16 of time in which the stuff the all the
4.16 condiments Etc would start to become
4.16 aversive I do believe that when we
4.16 return to the the sort of most um
4.16 naturally satisfying mode of engaging
4.16 with these uh with these circuits here
4.16 we&;re talking about food and sex in
4.16 parallel that they become especially
4.16 satiating and I think that you know in
4.16 hearing from all these people that are
4.16 addicted to pornography and they&;re not
4.16 addicted like they telling me they love
4.16 it and they can&;t stop they&;re telling
4.16 me it&;s no longer working for them that
4.16 the that there&;s this you know
4.16 diminishment in the amount of dopamine
4.16 that they&;re getting over time and they
4.16 feel trapped within it and they have no
4.16 sense whatsoever because they haven&;t
4.16 been socialized you to go out and find a
4.16 real relationship a real sexual
4.16 relationship or a relationship of any
4.16 well it also it&;s also there is some
4.16 evidence suggesting too that if you&;ve
4.16 been socialized into pornography
4.16 sexuality it&;s actually quite difficult
4.16 to establish a sexual relationship with
4.16 an actual partner now I would say to
4.16 some degree that&;s always been difficult
4.16 because it&;s a complex form of behavior
4.16 but the introduction of
4.16 pornography well it sets up a whole
4.16 landscape of expectation for example
4.16 that&;s not necessarily going to play out
4.16 that well in the real world let&;s say
4.16 and there&;s also a learning of those
4.16 biological systems in the brain to um
4.16 evoke arousal by observing sex as
4.16 opposed to participating complet
4.16 completely different so some of these um
4.16 right that&;s voer right you&;re basically
4.16 learning to be a Voyer right right and
4.16 so you think about young brains that are
4.16 highly plastic yeah learning that so the
4.16 returning yeah we have no idea what to
4.16 make of that because especially for
4.16 young men because when they hit puberty
4.16 sexuality becomes a very uh insistent
4.16 force and we have no idea what effect
4.16 pornography has on the development of
4.16 male sexuality none
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